Andy Moore of New Zealand makes excellent points about the objection that men shouldn't be allowed to speak out against abortion. To view more of his videos and posts please visit his site.
September 2, 2010
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I like the video, he makes some good points here. I'd like to see what else he has to say about this topic. I'd also like to add a few points of my own about men forcing their opinion on women:
1) People have different genders but arguments don't. The questions are whether it is right/wrong to abort a child, are the unborn humans and do they deserve a right to life? What does a person's gender have to do with whether they are right or wrong? Plenty of women are pro-life and make the same arguments men do, so are women allowed to speak about other women? Or is the morality of abortion dependent on what gender you are? Would it help this discussion if pro-choice women who argue with men pretend they are women?
2) The Supreme Court which made the decision to pass roe v. wade consisted of men. By this argument, those men had no right to pass this law if only women can speak on this issue. Women who make this argument shouldn't recognize roe v. wade because it was made by men. You can't have it both ways, if men can decide in your favor they should be allowed to decide against your beliefs as well.
3) Men are also affected by abortion. Like the video said, half of the babies that are aborted are males so this is a male issue as well. Not to mention the fathers may want to have the child and will be deprived of this right. That can be very upsetting for a man who wants to be a father to have their decision ignored over the womans.
4) It's not the men's fault that only women can get pregnant. That's no reason to keep men out of the debate
good points there JS - completely agree.
Thanks Andy, feel free to share any of those points if you like.
I actually thought about this topic a little more since then and another point occured to me:
5) Women say men shouldn't share their view about abortion becuase they don't know what its like to go through it. Well I could point out that these women don't know what its like to be an aborted baby.
By this logic, women shouldn't speak about in favor of abortion because they don't know what it's like to be in that situation and lose their life. Maybe pro-choice women should talk to abortion survivors, because as far as I know, they would all say how terrible abortion is and that being alive is a much better fate.
From what I've read, even those who are born into horrible circumstances are all happy that they are alive today and value their lives. They are the ones who have been affected by abortion directly and they are all speaking from experience.
If someone says it's easy for a man to say abortion is wrong, one could reply that it's easy for an unaborted person to say abortion is right.
Js - I thought I had heard every argument against abortion but your #5 is new to me. Excellent job. I'll have to remember that for further discussions.
absolutely agree JS - it's essential we start making these responses mainstream.
Oh hey thanks guys! Well it's just something I tend to think about a lot and I'm happy if my words can be helpful in any future conversations.
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