A sample pro-life/pro-abortion discussion:
PL - What do you think of abortion?
PA - I am pro-choice.
PL - What are you choosing?
PA - The mother gets to choose whether or not to have an abortion.
PL - What is an abortion?
PA - You're being ridiculous! It's terminating the pregnancy.
PL - What are you terminating?
PA - You are trying to trick me. It's a fetus, just a bunch of cells. You know, it's not a baby, if that's what you're trying to get me to say.
PL - It has its own distinctive DNA separate from the mother and father. It's just a human at a different level of development. Since you said that it's not a baby, then can you tell me what it is?
PA - Whatever it is, the mother has a right to choose not have it in her.
PL - Should she be allowed to kill a two-year-old child?
PA - Of course, not. It's already born.
PL - So it comes down to the fact that you think the unborn baby should be killed because it's in a different location or because it's not human at all.
PA - If it can live outside the womb, it should not be killed.
PL - You are saying that there is a human inside the mother. At what point is it not a human inside the mother.
PA - OK. Let's say in the first three months.
PL - OK. We're narrowing it down. In the first three months it has a brain, a heart, and the foundation for all other anatomical systems. It even has eyelids and fingernails.
PA - Let's say it has features that other humans have. The woman still has her rights.
PL - Let me get this straight. The woman has a right to destroy this human. But this human will never enjoy one right. Even half of these unborn humans are female, so are you for female rights or not?
PA - She is already a woman. Even if you say this thing is a human, it's so small and can't function on its own.
PL - A newborn would die in a few days if there wasn't an adult there to give it nutrition and a proper environment to live - in fact, the same two things that an unborn needs. It would be a crime not to give this baby nourishment, so it's all about location. Also, does size of a person really matter? You and I are much smaller than NFL linemen. Are they more valuable as humans than we are?
PA - That's also ridiculous. They are already born. I know you're going to say that it doesn't matter where one is located.
PL - Right. We're agreeing on quite a lot here.
PA- It's just a religious issue, and that's up to each person.
PL - I never mentioned any religion. An atheist could actually think that abortion is wrong. Do you think it's a moral issue - one of definite right and wrong?
PA - There are many shades of gray. The mother may have school, work, or what if she's really poor?
PL - I know it may be difficult on her, but it doesn't change the fact that a baby is being killed.
PA - I wish you didn't say that a baby is being killed.
PL - If I said that the pregnancy was terminated, would that change the result of the death of a human. By the way, that woman would not be allowed to kill her born child if they live in poverty, because -
PA - - because it's in a different location, and the killing of a child is always wrong, is what you're going to say.
PL - Yes. I think we agree on more than we initially thought.
PA - I have to run. Thanks for the calm discussion.
February 15, 2009
Subscribe to:
Post Comments (Atom)
7 comments:
Few subjects make me as sick and disgusted as abortion. It's absolutely beyond me who anyone can justify such a barbaric practice.
The dialogue begins well but it has an error towards the end. Here's a new, better ending, starting from:
"PA - That's also ridiculous. They are already born. I know you're going to say that it doesn't matter where one is located.
PL - Right. We're agreeing on quite a lot here. "
OK, here's how the dialogue SHOULD continue:
PC: Actually we DON'T agree on the location question. OF COURSE it matters where one is located. My rights depend very heavily on what country I am located in, and on whose property I am located on. And most of all, on whether or not I am located inside another person's body. If you don't agree, try locating part of your body (say a finger) inside part of someone else's body (say an eyeball) and you will learn very quickly that your rights do in fact depend on your location.
PC continues: I am entitled to kill anything and/or anyone who is located inside my body. If all the human beings alive today--innocent and guilty, unborn and already-born, great and small, rich and poor, smart and stupid, male and female, religious and faithless--were assembled somewhere inside my body, along with Baby Jesus, Almighty God, and the Flying Spaghetti Monster, then I'd be entitled to holocaust 'em, any time, for any reason or for no reason. That's part of the meaning of the word "my" in the phrase "my body".
PL: Gosh, I never thought about it that way. So you're saying the fetus is a live human person, but the woman is entitled to abort it ANYWAY, because it's inside her body.
PC: That's right. I have no problem if you want to try to save human lives by preventing abortions, but you must do so by PERSUADING the pregnant woman to grow her pregnancy and give birth, NOT by means of force or law. Otherwise, you're nothing but a body-hijacker; you're only a little less bad than someone who takes transplantable organs by force from unwilling donors like in MONTY PYTHON AND THE MEANING OF LIFE. Remember, that person is saving human lives too. Transplant patients' lives.
PL: So you admit that abortion is homicide, but you say that abortion on demand is JUSTIFIABLE homicide.
PC: That's right.
PL: OK! Let's work together to make it easier for sexually-active women to avoid conceiving when they don't want to conceive, and, to make it easier for women who face unexpected pregnancies to choose LIFE! How about making obstetric care and pediatric care available at no cost to the patient?
PC: Let's do it!
(PL and PC exit into the sunset, holding hands.)
SoMG...
will you marry me?
Abortion is a battle that will play out in the hearts of America ... let's make the right choice.
Abortion is a battle that will play out in the hearts of America ... let's make the right choice.
Abortion is a battle that will play out in the hearts of America ... let's make the right choice.
We have got to stop slaughtering innocent babies in the name of choice.
Post a Comment